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On this episode our guests are Michael Carter and Victoria Prinz. Michael Carter is an artist who lives and works in Los Angeles. Victoria Prinz is a student of Theosophy: An area of study concerning the knowledge of the mysteries of life and nature, the nature of divinity, and the origin and purpose of the universe.

Our interstitial music, as always, is Ocfif by Lewis Keller, and we go out with a song from Los Angeles band Moaning. They have a new album coming out soon on Sub Pop records so keep an eye out for that and check em out on SubPop.com ... and the name of the track is … The Same

Written by Mathew Timmons — October 15, 2017